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Very good, how are you? It's called Let's start a war...

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I'm Wattie from The Exploited

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And I make a noise. I'm rob irish
I play the bass.

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I'm Stevie.

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I play the guitar.

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I'm Joe.

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I'm a drummer.

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Lee: Alright, gentlemen, come in.

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Hello.

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We're still in a mess.

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Rob: I joined in 2004,
and I ended up auditioning for guitar.

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I didn't get the job
but he got the job playing bass.

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I'm sure Wattie can elaborate on that.

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Wattie: I'm not going to tell you.

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I don't want to embarrass him.

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Rob: Not until I'm gone.

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Stevie: I was friends with Robbie.

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I came to do a handful of concerts.
with them. It helped him.

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Jo: I started doing the first concerts in March.
and it's amazing.

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Traveling the world, playing
to sold-out shows.

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Wattie: We had to re-edit part of this DVD.
Some of the things that were in it.

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It's irrelevant now.

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So we wanted this to be relevant to what's been happening in the
band.

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There is a level you have to be at. To be exploited you have to be.
at a level

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People think it's easy, but exploited things are not.

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Wattie: See what he got?

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I said let's go get a towel.

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There are no towels for the concert.

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Then he comes back with two like that.

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Is that a hand towel?

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Come on, how big is your pussy?

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How is that a hand towel? I went to Blackpool and came back with
that!

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Stevie: I grew up listening to The Exploited,
It helped me get through many difficult times.

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you know, play the songs as a fan
of The Exploited.

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I give Watts 110% every time.

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You know, if I don't leave the stage devastated or hurt...

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Wattie: They tell you so.

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Stevie: What he does is whisper to me through the door while I'm sleeping.

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Wattie: You're shit.

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Stevie: Make Wattie a sandwich. And you're shit.

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Lee: Do you want some nuts? Stevie: No, thank you.

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Lee: Just do your interview, buddy.
They keep collecting all kinds of shady shit here.

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Just keep going.

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Wattie: Stevie really plays the songs.

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how they should be played,
he plays old things

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in style they should be touched not
mentally fucked crossing.

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Robbie and Matt used to add parts to songs but I never noticed.

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My wife said 'the songs are changing...

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Also making them out of metal. I'm like what are you talking about?

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He plays them like punk, the way they should be played.

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Stevie: I locked myself away for weeks and just went through the
songs.

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I went through the songs, you know,

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I bought things at the table,
for Watts and Willie.

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Wattie: We'd go, it sucks!

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Stevie: That's a bit! That little bit!

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Wattie: What the fuck are you playing at, motherfucker?

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So Stevie was in the band for almost two and a half years.

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And I've done 5 concerts!
Welcome to sunny Blackpool!

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That's your tea, bastard.

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Lee: Is it like that fish cake you had last night? seems
I like it.

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Wattie: I forgot to bring the backdrop.

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Know.

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<i>*
Laughter*</i>

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Lee: You're going to have to do a lot of editing on this video.

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Stevie: Two years of being yelled at.

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Wattie: Totally.

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Stevie: And you know how bad it got, I stopped drinking.

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Wattie: Join The Exploited and quit drinking, huh?

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It usually works the other way around.

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Stevie: When you stop poisoning, you know there's been something real.
abuse.

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Wattie: Before we made Army Life we ​​made a demo tape.

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We never released it. It has 7 or 8 songs.

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The life of the army is in it. And other songs.

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They have offered us a lot of money for it.

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But I would never sell it because my voice sounds like a choir boy.

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*High tone* Army Life is ki... I sound like Mini Mouse.

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So I would never let go. Never ever!
We have a support concert with

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cockney rejects

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And one of the guys who was making sound for them said, 'We'll do a
single with you...

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So we did Army Life. my girlfriend at the time
He took him to London, he met Garry Bushell...

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...from Sounds, made it the single of the week.

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And from then on was when we started...

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. be on the independent charts for weeks and weeks and
weeks... Well, for...

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Then we signed with Secret Records and did Exploited Barmy Army and
war dogs

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We did it in this cemetery with Glen.

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Our old drummer. He's dead now. And Big John and Gary.

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We were very excited back then. And so happy. We just played for
nothing.

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Basically.
Then we did the Live in Edinburgh.

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on 2 tracks. I had to buy that.

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I bought 4 copies on vinyl. That sold hundreds and hundreds of
thousands,

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Hundreds of thousands,
and I never received a cent for it. And it's still selling.

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**General background chat**

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Wattie: How are you guys?

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Cro Mags: Good to see you.

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Wattie: Hello.

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Wattie: How are you doing? It's great to see you're still alive, buddy.

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These are the guys from CRO MAGS. We just did a tour with the boys.

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Cro Mags: What's up?

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Wattie: Fuck the haters.

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Cro Mags: We just got here right now.

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I was thinking where the hell we were supposed to get the wristbands and
other shit

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Wattie: Come this way.

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Yes.

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Wattie: Wristbands up here.

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Wattie: That was luck, huh.

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Cro Mags: Yes.

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We thought, where the fuck is he?

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Wait...

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There's Wattie, right there!

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Stuart: How has Covid times been for the band?
Wattie: Shit! For the band? shit

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We played New Zealand, when Stevie first joined the band.

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In New Zealand we did 3 concerts. Then the next day we were supposed to fly.

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To Australia, for 12 concerts, they closed the border due to Covid.

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I collapsed at the airport and spent three days in the hospital.

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I don't remember what was happening to me, but I couldn't breathe and
I was in the hospital.

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And then we finish

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5 concerts in two and a half years.

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Fan: Montreal, remember? Wattie: Montreal? A great place.

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Photographer: Do you have time for a photo, guys?

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Good?

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Here we go.

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Fan: I saw them in San Diego,
About two months ago. Wattie: Did you? That was good.

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Come on,

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Wattie: Let's go see Harley.

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Stuart: What time does he leave?

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Wattie: I'm not sure.

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Stuart: Half 3?
Wattie: Do you have the times?

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Wattie: Harley's a really good guy. The first time I met him, 40.
Years ago, when we played in Los Angeles.

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And this little skinhead went up

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about 25 feet tall with its bass in the pa

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He jumped off the PA with his bass into the crowd and I was like this
*makes face*

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Damn, man, I was mortified.
He thought he must have committed suicide.

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Wattie: Punk's Not Dead was the independent album of the year for
us. We received a gold record for it.

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I never received any money, but I did get a record. There is a recording studio in
Edinburgh called R.E.L.

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In total it took 3 days to shoot and cost £600.

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All the mistakes can be heard, but we were so excited to do it.

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It's a classic album. Part of Punk Rock history.

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It meant a lot as a statement. Not only for us, but for the whole.
Punk underworld.

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Because there were tons of young punk bands like us.

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So we made Punk's Not Dead

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And from there everything began.

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From there we did the Apocalypse Now tour,

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The biggest punk tour since The Pistols and The Clash tour

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And in fact, there is no

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There's been a real punk tour like that since then, and that's in 40
years.

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John Curd: Wattie!

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Wattie: Is that John? Is that John Curd? Yeah! Hello Juan, come in!

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Sorry... How are you, friend?

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This is John Curd, the guy who did the Apocalypse Now tour.

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He is the Arthur Daley of the punk world. *Laughs*

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I was talking to Discharge and I said this is the first time that
They played together in London since the Apocalypse Now tour.

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John Curd: You know what? I remember doing a show at The Rainbow.
with Blag Flag on the bill.

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Wattie: I remember we were fighting with all the MODS next door.

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Wattie: And the other one that was good was when you were
header

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John Curd: Christmas on Earth.
Wattie: That's right, yeah.

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Hahahahaha

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Harley: I'm fine, man. Wattie: I just saw your band.

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Wattie: Yeah. He helped them get their passes.

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Harley: Who the fuck is this?

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Wattie: This is Harley, from CRO MAGS. Harley: Ahhhaa. this is
my brother, right here. You've heard about him and Henry, right?

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Wattie: Fuck you. Henry Rollins, he's talking about...

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Woman: Do you want a drink or something?

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Wattie: He's got a new band.

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Because he and John Joseph,
They are former members of the band and they hate each other.

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Like Big John and me, that's your business, huh.

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I have known Harley for a long time and I totally respect him because he is
He had a crazy lifestyle.

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And he's done a lot of mental things.

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It's like my classmates are all crazy and you are.

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You have all lived your lives, you have good stories and you have
I really lived it.

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You've experienced Punk Rock and done it all, it's not necessary.
invent stories.

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You don't have to make up nonsense, and that's Harley.

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Stuart: What's going on?

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Wattie: Harley gets a little workout before going on stage.

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Offscreen: Do you care?
Harley: Do I care?

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I love this son of a bitch.

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Wattie: We had the best US tour.

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Harley: Playing with these guys, it's the only time I've played with
a band that I have seen every night

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Except Motorhead.

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Stevie: I see a lot of similarities between Wattie and Harley, and
that honesty.

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Harley: Wattie, my damn man and the exploited

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and, you know, to make things clear

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in my opinion this fucking festival
it wouldn't even be happening

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yes these sons of bitches
I didn't say punks weren't dead.

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Because many sons of bitches
I thought it was.

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Wattie: For me, guys like James Brown and Screamin Lord Such,
They were legends in music at that time.

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And I think Harley has done that.

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in CRO MAGS, he is a legend and his music is very high.

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He has survived and has always been faithful to his music.

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And that's like us, and that will never change, huh.

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Wattie: We did Top oof the Pops and we did it with Gary Glitter.
During rehearsals he wore a big silver suit and looked like a big turkey.

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He had all these little girls around him and I thought it was a
a little strange at the time.

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Wattie: I was playing the song.

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and I saw this guy with a mustache.
And he was jumping.

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And I wanted to go kick him in the face, but I had to think calmly.
below.

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Calm down, it's Top of the Pops! Crazy days.

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Wattie: Nineteen eight fucking one.

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Dom: I was involved in the preparation of the literary scenario and programmed
this

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and Wattie is going to be interviewed by a good friend of mine, Diana.
from Los Angeles.

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I think it has some interesting things.
He'll ask Wattie later.

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Lee: Say fuck you.

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Wattie: This is called Tomorrow's Troops.

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Wattie: Troops of Tomorrow had a little more money invested and
He worked with a guy named Tony Sparth.

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I think I had worked with David Bowie before.

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The production is fucking excellent!

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Easily one of the best productions on any Punk album!

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The only thing I remember about making that album is Secret Records.
He took us to London and put us in an apartment.

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Big John took Gary's toothbrush and shoved it up his ass.

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So after that, everyone called him Gary Browngums. that's all I
He remembers making that album.

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Diana: This man needs no introduction.

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Let's leave it for Wattie BOOcan.

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Wattie: I'm Buchan.

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Diana: Well, before we start,
Let me activate Google Translate.

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Wattie: Awwww...

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Wattie: I never imagined when we started all those years ago that
We'd be headlining Rebellion and stuff.

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We were just a small band.

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And all the bands we played with like SLF, The Rejects, The
Subs...

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999. These were all massive bands compared to us.

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And it's like we're now topping the headlines above all of them.

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And that makes me feel like I've really done something with our
music.

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Wattie: We have been offered many times to go to the studio and
record a 'live' album

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and we'd get a couple grand.

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They've offered us that many times but I've told them to fuck off.
out, we never will.

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But I know at least 6 punk band names they have.

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But I won't mention them.

225
00:11:50,499 --> 00:11:51,457
They know who they are.

226
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There is a band that doubles in the crowd.

227
00:11:53,957 --> 00:11:58,832
**Fake crowd? Noise** Yes, these are for... And they develop and
You see what's in front of them, huh.

228
00:11:59,124 --> 00:12:02,249
Wattie: Close, damn! If I did that, then...
Stevie: Selling.

229
00:12:02,291 --> 00:12:07,416
Wattie: Everything. All those who follow the band, those who believe in
the band, I would laugh at them.

230
00:12:07,457 --> 00:12:11,124
I will never do that, since I have too much respect for the Punks that
Follow our music.

231
00:12:11,166 --> 00:12:13,291
Those who supported us and have supported us all these years.

232
00:12:13,332 --> 00:12:14,291
I would never do that!

233
00:12:14,791 --> 00:12:19,041
Diana: If you had a time machine and you could go back,
What advice would you give to a young Wattie?

234
00:12:19,082 --> 00:12:20,791
Wattie: None. Never change anything.

235
00:12:20,832 --> 00:12:23,249
I've been doing this for 42 years and I've listened to punk music.

236
00:12:23,666 --> 00:12:25,832
And it's the best thing that has happened to me in my life.

237
00:12:25,874 --> 00:12:28,499
Wattie: I've never done anything with The Exploited that we haven't already done.
given 100%

238
00:12:28,874 --> 00:12:32,457
We have a lot of good songs written. We have 14-16 songs for him
new album.

239
00:12:32,499 --> 00:12:36,499
We've written about 80 songs, something like that, over the years.

240
00:12:36,832 --> 00:12:38,707
but we have only kept between 14 and 16 songs.

241
00:12:39,207 --> 00:12:41,457
Rob: I've been in the band for about 20 years.
and there is no album.

242
00:12:41,832 --> 00:12:44,457
So... maybe it's me, maybe it's the curse!

243
00:12:44,499 --> 00:12:46,832
Wattie: For the last 20 years we've had Robbie and Matt.

244
00:12:46,874 --> 00:12:51,666
One would leave and the other would take over. 6 times. So we didn't have
continuity.

245
00:12:51,707 --> 00:12:55,957
Rob: What happened is that we've written a lot of material, but it's
I never got to the point with a guitarist.

246
00:12:56,249 --> 00:12:58,541
There is enough material,
I just need to really record it.

247
00:12:58,582 --> 00:13:00,041
Diana: We will answer one more question.

248
00:13:00,541 --> 00:13:01,999
Fan Question: When is your new album coming out?

249
00:13:05,291 --> 00:13:06,957
Diana: How long has it been?

250
00:13:06,999 --> 00:13:07,874
18 years old.

251
00:13:08,541 --> 00:13:10,082
Wattie: That's a question I'll never be able to answer...

252
00:13:15,832 --> 00:13:23,832
Stevie: I've been writing, coming up with ideas, some
They are good, others have a different style

253
00:13:23,874 --> 00:13:28,666
Wattie: That's a problem because a lot of things have been written.
Good stuff, but not good enough for The Exploited.

254
00:13:28,707 --> 00:13:33,374
I think that with The Exploited our music is not the same as any other.
punk band

255
00:13:33,416 --> 00:13:36,291
There is no other punk band with the same music as us.

256
00:13:36,624 --> 00:13:39,457
IStevie: I think it's with honesty in your things.

257
00:13:39,749 --> 00:13:42,666
that gives them other people they can easily identify with.

258
00:13:42,707 --> 00:13:44,499
Wattie: I never copy anyone's style.

259
00:13:45,457 --> 00:13:48,332
So when I want to write songs with The Exploited.

260
00:13:48,666 --> 00:13:51,374
The songs have to be fucking aggressive.

261
00:13:51,416 --> 00:13:56,082
There has to be a lot of feeling, a lot of energy and power.

262
00:13:56,666 --> 00:13:59,291
And it's like, if I write a song...

263
00:13:59,582 --> 00:14:05,416
...and I get goosebumps, that's what I know. and when I hear it
When I get goosebumps, I know that song is one to keep.

264
00:14:05,874 --> 00:14:07,499
That's how I judge my songs.

265
00:14:08,041 --> 00:14:11,291
Wattie: When I write songs, I always have to be angry because with me
Punk is angry music.

266
00:14:12,082 --> 00:14:16,416
In recent years with my health being shit and being happy
with my life

267
00:14:16,916 --> 00:14:19,041
It will be harder for me to write angry songs.

268
00:14:19,082 --> 00:14:20,957
If I really wanted to, I could put out 2 albums.

269
00:14:20,999 --> 00:14:23,416
But they would be shit, they wouldn't be 100% Exploited.

270
00:14:23,457 --> 00:14:25,957
If we made a new album we could make a lot of money like everyone else.
waiting for him

271
00:14:25,999 --> 00:14:27,749
But that's not what I do, that's not what I believe.

272
00:14:27,791 --> 00:14:30,541
If I did that then everything
I have worked for the last 40 years.

273
00:14:30,582 --> 00:14:31,999
It would be gone!

274
00:14:33,499 --> 00:14:35,416
Wattie: Let's start a war? Fucking great album!

275
00:14:35,457 --> 00:14:37,416
You could have signed with any label.

276
00:14:37,457 --> 00:14:40,041
But I wanted it to be a punk label, selling cheap records and stuff.

277
00:14:40,082 --> 00:14:42,457
Then there was a guy named Marcus Feather,
in the PAX registry.

278
00:14:42,499 --> 00:14:45,582
So we recorded it at a place called Strawberry Studios.

279
00:14:45,624 --> 00:14:48,207
Which was owned by... CRASS.

280
00:14:48,249 --> 00:14:50,499
Yes, you heard me right.

281
00:14:50,541 --> 00:14:54,374
CRASS, who were always against the system, against making money.

282
00:14:54,416 --> 00:14:58,291
What they did was that the study was registered in the name of a friend of theirs.

283
00:14:58,332 --> 00:15:02,541
We did Let's Start A War for 10 days there. And that's how I know
for a fact.

284
00:15:02,582 --> 00:15:06,124
And now, years later, everyone knows that what he said was true.

285
00:15:06,166 --> 00:15:09,874
and those CRASS were full of shit. I have been scammed for hundreds
of thousands of pounds.

286
00:15:09,916 --> 00:15:14,332
In the first days. At the end of the day, I say it was me
naive

287
00:15:14,374 --> 00:15:17,374
The only thing you have in life that is worth anything is you.
word.

288
00:15:17,416 --> 00:15:20,124
My word is my word. If I tell someone that I am going to do something,
I will do it.

289
00:15:20,166 --> 00:15:23,541
With Marcus he gave us a check for £2,500 for LSAWar.

290
00:15:23,582 --> 00:15:26,457
I put it in the bank, oh it's still in the bank. Put it on the bench.

291
00:15:26,499 --> 00:15:30,249
It's still not clear! The guy rejected the check; I shook his hand.
with the.

292
00:15:30,291 --> 00:15:34,041
And for me, when something is personal, then it's fucking
personal...

293
00:15:34,082 --> 00:15:35,832
...That makes me violent.

294
00:15:35,874 --> 00:15:39,291
He moved from Sheffield to Bristol and we had a gig in
Bristol.

295
00:15:39,332 --> 00:15:43,166
Someone told me where he was and we went to his door wearing a balaclava.
in

296
00:15:43,207 --> 00:15:47,207
There was a boy of 14 or 15 years old, a Scotsman opened the door.

297
00:15:47,249 --> 00:15:49,624
You said you had 20 seconds, where's Marcus?

298
00:15:49,666 --> 00:15:52,582
I went to his room, he wasn't there, but we took everything out with
us

299
00:15:52,624 --> 00:15:56,291
We were going through his stuff while driving and he had a photo album.

300
00:15:56,332 --> 00:16:00,332
of him with little kids, half naked and stuff.

301
00:16:00,707 --> 00:16:04,791
In short, working for the BBC.
He changed his name to writing post.

302
00:16:04,832 --> 00:16:07,874
And I heard he died, I think it was last year.

303
00:16:07,916 --> 00:16:10,749
Wattie: Oh, and then we went to Argentina, shortly after the
Falklands

304
00:16:10,791 --> 00:16:14,707
They told me we were going to do some interviews and I thought 'Who is this?
Have you heard about us?

305
00:16:14,749 --> 00:16:16,957
But there were about 40 television cameras.

306
00:16:16,999 --> 00:16:20,666
And here Mr. Big Mouth, I started talking about the Falklands War.

307
00:16:20,707 --> 00:16:24,082
I said 'We won the war' and stuff, and damn, man... *Laughs*

308
00:16:24,124 --> 00:16:26,499
Yes, yes, yes, then the concert that night

309
00:16:26,541 --> 00:16:31,749
Everyone attacked us, tried to kill me on stage.
throwing bricks and stuff

310
00:16:31,791 --> 00:16:33,624
Oh damn, he wasn't very popular.

311
00:16:34,957 --> 00:16:37,124
Dianna: recovered from very serious health
problems.

312
00:16:37,166 --> 00:16:39,624
Did you know you are having a heart attack?
When was it happening?

313
00:16:39,666 --> 00:16:43,499
Wattie: No, people say your chest hurts and all that, but
I just felt like going, urrghhh...

314
00:16:44,457 --> 00:16:47,416
Wattie: I've had 5 heart attacks, I never knew about the first one.

315
00:16:47,457 --> 00:16:51,957
Doctors said the severity of your heart attack, most people do.
not survive that.

316
00:16:51,999 --> 00:16:56,499
And he was actually in the hospital.
When I had another massive heart attack, I was in the hospital.

317
00:16:57,624 --> 00:16:59,207
That probably saved me.

318
00:16:59,249 --> 00:17:01,374
Wattie: I'll have to take the first few songs easy or I'll be done.
breathless.

319
00:17:01,416 --> 00:17:04,582
Wattie: Then I feel like I'm going to faint.
Scott: Yeah, it's a little hot in there.

320
00:17:04,999 --> 00:17:09,957
Wattie: I'm lucky, the doctors told me I should be dead, I'm not.
I know I'm still alive.

321
00:17:10,749 --> 00:17:12,166
Stevie: Like a cockroach.

322
00:17:12,207 --> 00:17:13,624
Wattie: So I put on a lot of weight.

323
00:17:13,666 --> 00:17:18,041
I stopped using drugs, after 34 years of practicing speed every day. I have
fat as fuck

324
00:17:18,082 --> 00:17:22,374
Wattie: Every time you have a heart attack, it damages your heart.
and they can't fix it

325
00:17:22,416 --> 00:17:23,457
that is damaged

326
00:17:24,457 --> 00:17:27,041
My heart works at something like 40%.

327
00:17:27,457 --> 00:17:30,957
Wattie: So what normal people take for granted is just normal walking.

328
00:17:30,999 --> 00:17:34,332
Well, I couldn't walk more than 20 feet without feeling like, *pants*
Totally screwed.

329
00:17:34,832 --> 00:17:38,624
Wattie: Actually, at one point I wanted to kill myself because I was so
depressed

330
00:17:38,666 --> 00:17:42,291
I was always fit, I was always active.

331
00:17:42,707 --> 00:17:44,541
Wattie: I wasn't happy with the way I was.

332
00:17:45,832 --> 00:17:51,457
It took me years to say that and come clean about it.

333
00:17:51,791 --> 00:17:57,332
It's a mental illness. So if you're down, if you have someone
who you can trust: talk to them.

334
00:17:57,374 --> 00:17:59,791
Even just talking to them can make you feel better.

335
00:18:00,166 --> 00:18:04,791
Wattie: Nowadays young people suffer a lot of social pressure

336
00:18:04,832 --> 00:18:07,457
people need to defend themselves
and say no

337
00:18:07,499 --> 00:18:10,249
I can do what I want to do, I can wear what I want, I can say what I want
I want.

338
00:18:10,666 --> 00:18:14,249
Wattie: Horror Epics took on a guy, Dave, from Yorkshire.

339
00:18:14,291 --> 00:18:18,041
He was more of a businessman, not a big record label guy. he gave
He gave us money to put together an album.

340
00:18:18,082 --> 00:18:20,832
They didn't have the right equipment. The only equipment they had there was a
Siemens team.

341
00:18:21,249 --> 00:18:22,457
an electronic kit

342
00:18:23,207 --> 00:18:24,874
The batteries, the other batteries...

343
00:18:24,916 --> 00:18:27,166
Normal batteries were total shit.

344
00:18:27,207 --> 00:18:30,874
We never had the money to buy new masks since we were all back in the
unemployment

345
00:18:30,916 --> 00:18:35,499
We just used what was there, and that's why it sounded different.
the other albums.

346
00:18:35,541 --> 00:18:40,916
The drums on Horror Epics, along with Beat The Bastards, are the
better battery My brother, he's a brilliant drummer.

347
00:18:42,832 --> 00:18:44,999
Wattie: A photo? Continue then.

348
00:18:46,832 --> 00:18:48,791
Wattie: Because you're an upstart.

349
00:18:49,791 --> 00:18:50,999
Wattie: Oil What are you going to do... Cheeballs?

350
00:18:52,374 --> 00:18:55,041
Girl: Say cheese balls.
Wattie: Cheeballs, yeah.

351
00:18:55,457 --> 00:18:57,124
Fan: Can we take a photo?
Wattie: Sure.

352
00:19:07,082 --> 00:19:08,332
Wattie: With a Cock Sparrer t-shirt on, huh?

353
00:19:08,832 --> 00:19:09,749
Wattie: Hey! Hey! Oil

354
00:19:20,707 --> 00:19:24,957
Wattie: In Croatia, the promoter was worried about my health after
I had the heart attack

355
00:19:25,374 --> 00:19:28,082
and he actually had two cardiac surgeons come to the concert.

356
00:19:28,124 --> 00:19:33,749
come to the door to make sure I was okay, and that if
If I had a problem, I would have done what had to be done.

357
00:19:34,124 --> 00:19:38,082
And I thought, wow, would people really do that for me?

358
00:19:38,666 --> 00:19:41,499
Diana: So if anyone has a question they want to ask Wattie, just shout.
Is he out?

359
00:19:41,541 --> 00:19:42,707
Fan Question: Do you get along with John Lydon?

360
00:19:42,749 --> 00:19:46,249
Wattie: I never met that boy, but if it wasn't for John Lydon,
There would be no punk bands.

361
00:19:46,624 --> 00:19:47,999
There would be no Exploited.

362
00:19:48,041 --> 00:19:52,957
What punk started was just another musical fad, but there were
So much poverty in the UK.

363
00:19:52,999 --> 00:19:55,832
So punk music became angry music for the working class.

364
00:19:55,874 --> 00:20:00,832
So when everyone said punk was dead, Spandaux Ballet and all the
pussies like that

365
00:20:00,874 --> 00:20:02,457
*Harley screams* And you kept him alive!

366
00:20:02,499 --> 00:20:05,749
Wattie: Hey, just because you like Henry Rollins *laughs*

367
00:20:05,791 --> 00:20:08,749
It does! Hello Henry is my man

368
00:20:08,791 --> 00:20:12,832
So I never met John Lydon. But I respect it, yes.

369
00:20:18,666 --> 00:20:21,499
Stuart: Go, go, go...
Wattie: It's a little hectic, huh?

370
00:20:22,999 --> 00:20:23,916
Wattie: Hello.

371
00:20:23,957 --> 00:20:27,249
Rob: I love the fact that young people can do
albums in his room, you know, with...

372
00:20:27,291 --> 00:20:29,207
With a €500 laptop.

373
00:20:29,249 --> 00:20:31,791
No, you know, any other specialized equipment.

374
00:20:31,832 --> 00:20:32,749
It's much more genuine.

375
00:20:32,791 --> 00:20:36,082
Wattie: There are a lot of good bands. Your band was good, Underclass.
United Kingdom.

376
00:20:36,124 --> 00:20:40,916
Bands like you, The Vile, Certified, Face Up.

377
00:20:40,957 --> 00:20:45,041
Ace Lady. All these younger bands too.

378
00:20:45,082 --> 00:20:48,124
They got the energy, the passion and they really believe in the
music.

379
00:20:48,166 --> 00:20:51,166
For me, that's the good thing about music.

380
00:20:51,207 --> 00:20:53,249
Rob: The dawn of the Internet has actually made it...

381
00:20:53,291 --> 00:20:55,874
People see through that shit
because they are able to see what,

382
00:20:55,916 --> 00:20:58,374
you know, what real real local talent
there is out there.

383
00:20:58,416 --> 00:21:01,666
And then they go to shows.
They start going and interacting with that scene.

384
00:21:02,416 --> 00:21:05,082
Wattie: All the bands before us, I used to admire them...

385
00:21:05,124 --> 00:21:11,624
...'Cause we were just a little band from Scotland, and I looked up
how they were punk, the one who started it all

386
00:21:13,332 --> 00:21:16,166
Bands like The Damned and those. They were great back then.
bands!

387
00:21:16,207 --> 00:21:19,124
Diana: In which country would you like to play?
that you haven't played yet?

388
00:21:19,166 --> 00:21:20,582
Wattie: Probably Thailand. Maybe.

389
00:21:20,624 --> 00:21:23,624
Diana: Have you never played in Thailand?
Wattie: I've been to Thailand.

390
00:21:23,666 --> 00:21:25,457
I have been there many times. *Laughs*

391
00:21:26,791 --> 00:21:28,207
I'm sure I saw Jimmy Pursey there.

392
00:21:28,249 --> 00:21:33,082
Wattie: There are a few more bands but I don't want to mention them.
apart from maybe Jimmy Pursey and his art dance music video.

393
00:21:33,582 --> 00:21:36,749
Wattie: Has anyone seen it? It's fucking fun.

394
00:21:36,791 --> 00:21:37,499
Heckler: Do it!

395
00:21:37,541 --> 00:21:38,957
Wattie: Do it? Fuck off!!

396
00:21:39,707 --> 00:21:44,124
Wattie: Jimmy Pursey in Riverside. Google it and then piss yourself
pants laughing.

397
00:21:45,082 --> 00:21:47,916
That guy used to be a legend in the oil movement.

398
00:21:48,374 --> 00:21:49,749
Wattie: Anyway. I'm sorry.

399
00:21:50,332 --> 00:21:52,582
I keep digressing here.

400
00:21:53,124 --> 00:21:54,374
Stuart: Okay. That is responsibility done.

401
00:21:54,874 --> 00:21:57,166
Wattie: Not responsible. It's a damn fact. It's a fact!

402
00:21:57,207 --> 00:21:58,874
He can't go to Ameri... He can't go to Ameri...

403
00:21:58,916 --> 00:22:01,832
By the way, I'm drinking tea... **Ohhh** Tea...

404
00:22:04,582 --> 00:22:05,957
I'm hungover from last night.

405
00:22:06,791 --> 00:22:08,041
If I don't shut up I'll never come out.

406
00:22:08,082 --> 00:22:08,874
We'll be here for days.

407
00:22:10,166 --> 00:22:12,166
We were supposed to start an hour ago... *Laughs*

408
00:22:17,791 --> 00:22:18,832
Stuart: Sit there at the end.

409
00:22:19,207 --> 00:22:21,749
Diana: The Mohican and the skull with
the mohican logo

410
00:22:21,791 --> 00:22:24,749
has been synonymous with exploited
and with you.

411
00:22:24,791 --> 00:22:26,749
He can't go to Ameri... I bought a mohawk because it was different.

412
00:22:26,791 --> 00:22:30,416
Every night was a fight night, look at the state of this pussy.

413
00:22:30,457 --> 00:22:32,457
Then we would start fighting them.

414
00:22:32,499 --> 00:22:35,749
Because back then having a mohawk was a statement.

415
00:22:35,791 --> 00:22:37,249
It actually meant something.

416
00:22:37,291 --> 00:22:41,832
After so long, you had David Beckham and all those bastards having
Mohawks, what the fuck?

417
00:22:41,874 --> 00:22:43,166
I refused to put my hair up

418
00:22:43,999 --> 00:22:46,749
The record company said, "You have to put your hair up."
Fuck off!

419
00:22:47,124 --> 00:22:49,749
And all these punks were saying, you have to put your hair up...
fuck you!

420
00:22:50,832 --> 00:22:53,166
Because punk is not what you seem, it is what you believe.

421
00:22:53,541 --> 00:22:55,332
I'm Birdy from PNX news.

422
00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:59,874
And I work with Casey Royer,
who is also Carl C Boyer.

423
00:22:59,916 --> 00:23:01,291
So check out PNX News.

424
00:23:01,582 --> 00:23:03,707
Stuart: Were you nervous before going on stage?

425
00:23:03,749 --> 00:23:06,832
He can't go to Ameri...I'm not nervous, but I feel a little tense.
when we play in the UK

426
00:23:07,374 --> 00:23:11,082
Like when we play against Scotland or London, because my friends will be there.

427
00:23:11,541 --> 00:23:12,916
And they will just completely criticize me.

428
00:23:13,999 --> 00:23:17,666
So that's the only time when we play I go a little, oh, fuck,

429
00:23:18,374 --> 00:23:19,457
and get nervous before playing.

430
00:23:19,957 --> 00:23:22,249
Wattie: I'll say something nice at the end.

431
00:23:22,624 --> 00:23:27,249
Charlie Harper, is a legend in Punk, a legend!

432
00:23:27,916 --> 00:23:29,124
He's still a good guy.

433
00:23:30,082 --> 00:23:35,749
I'm just thinking who else is good? Chokes are good. we play
with them a while ago. They were great.

434
00:23:37,041 --> 00:23:38,499
The Rejects are fucking great live.

435
00:23:38,874 --> 00:23:41,416
GBH are great, Discharge are great, Varukers are great.

436
00:23:42,041 --> 00:23:44,541
There are many good bands, but the difference between us and many others
the...

437
00:23:45,249 --> 00:23:46,624
Wattie: Oh, thank you very much.
Fan: For you.

438
00:23:46,666 --> 00:23:48,707
Wattie: Cheers! Fan: Love
you. Wattie: See that?

439
00:23:48,749 --> 00:23:52,999
Wattie: I have a rose. I came to Blackpool and bought a rose, thank you.
a lot. *Laughs*

440
00:23:53,041 --> 00:23:56,457
Diana: Which program stands out the most in
your mind as the most terrifying.

441
00:23:56,749 --> 00:23:58,707
Wattie: The scariest thing was playing in New York

442
00:23:58,749 --> 00:24:03,249
In the '80s and '90s, all the Skinheads hated us for Fuck.
USA.

443
00:24:03,291 --> 00:24:08,332
It's not an anti-American song, it's an anti-government song.

444
00:24:08,374 --> 00:24:12,874
But like he says "Fuck the USA," they say *Funny Voice* "Fuck."
your Wattie'

445
00:24:14,207 --> 00:24:19,541
Wattie: So, back then, Agnostic Front, the Cro Mags, all these bands
He hated us, huh.

446
00:24:20,207 --> 00:24:24,457
Wattie: We played at the Ritz and there were a hundred of them, and
hundreds and hundreds of skinheads

447
00:24:24,499 --> 00:24:28,916
All these motherfuckers waving big American flags and yelling "Fuck you."
Wattie, you bastard, fuck you.'

448
00:24:28,957 --> 00:24:34,207
I was just inciting, like, fuck you pussies, like, hey, little pussy,
Huh.

449
00:24:34,249 --> 00:24:36,582
But inside I was completely shitting myself.

450
00:24:37,874 --> 00:24:40,124
Thinking, if they surpass that barrier, I'll be fucking dead! *Laughs*

451
00:24:41,166 --> 00:24:43,041
So the next night, Motörhead were playing.

452
00:24:44,124 --> 00:24:46,916
So the guys said, let's go see Motörhead and I said yes.

453
00:24:48,707 --> 00:24:50,957
So we went around the back of the building and snuck in.

454
00:24:51,416 --> 00:24:55,707
We sat on a balcony and I could recognize all the Skinheads from
the night before

455
00:24:56,499 --> 00:24:59,707
I always look at the faces to see who is throwing bottles and
shit

456
00:25:00,624 --> 00:25:02,874
and everyone is having a good time

457
00:25:02,916 --> 00:25:06,999
Then Lemmy said, this one's for Wattie and The Exploited.

458
00:25:07,041 --> 00:25:10,082
The next minute there is a black cloud of bottles being thrown
the

459
00:25:10,832 --> 00:25:13,291
<i>I had to apologize to him, I said: I'm sorry, Lemmy</i>

460
00:25:13,957 --> 00:25:15,499
We're not very popular here.

461
00:25:16,207 --> 00:25:21,624
Harley has this story that he told in an interview years ago.
in america,

462
00:25:21,999 --> 00:25:24,374
Rugby attacked me in the crowd to avoid being hit.

463
00:25:25,041 --> 00:25:26,749
I can't remember that, Haley.

464
00:25:26,791 --> 00:25:31,624
I don't remember you approaching me, but I do remember all your friends.
who tried to attack us

465
00:25:32,082 --> 00:25:34,499
That I do remember. But it's okay.

466
00:25:35,666 --> 00:25:38,499
It's all in the past and I still love you, you're a good guy.

467
00:25:54,874 --> 00:25:55,957
So after the concert

468
00:25:55,999 --> 00:26:01,207
There's a guy who's been there all night and he approaches me.
and says can I take a photo?

469
00:26:03,582 --> 00:26:06,999
Fuck you, you angry bastard.
Go fuck before I hit you

470
00:26:08,832 --> 00:26:10,874
Damn idiot, incredible.

471
00:26:10,916 --> 00:26:16,999
We got a producer and he wanted to do it his way, play guitar.
Then the bass together and we wanted to do it separately.

472
00:26:17,374 --> 00:26:20,374
So he said, well, do it my way or no way.

473
00:26:20,416 --> 00:26:22,207
So I said it's not possible, fuck you.

474
00:26:22,249 --> 00:26:24,499
So me, my brother, produced the album.

475
00:26:24,541 --> 00:26:27,666
When I listen to it now, I can hear a lot of mistakes.

476
00:26:27,707 --> 00:26:29,332
and a lot of technical errors and things like that.

477
00:26:29,374 --> 00:26:33,249
It's not the strongest of our albums, but at the time I thought it was.
I'm not going to let anyone impose on me

478
00:26:33,291 --> 00:26:35,832
I never let anyone tell me what songs to play.

479
00:26:35,874 --> 00:26:37,707
or what to play or how it should sound

480
00:26:37,749 --> 00:26:39,374
I know what music I want.

481
00:26:39,416 --> 00:26:42,249
and I hope you understand what's in my head

482
00:26:42,291 --> 00:26:46,666
One of my favorite places to play is in the United States, it's called Santana.

483
00:26:46,707 --> 00:26:50,707
Kids jumping over barriers, like what the fuck?

484
00:26:51,249 --> 00:26:53,041
Give me some of their drugs, quick.

485
00:26:54,957 --> 00:26:57,291
Fucking great place, good people.

486
00:26:57,332 --> 00:27:00,041
Diana: What is it like to see so many
Young people who like your music?

487
00:27:00,082 --> 00:27:02,082
Wattie: weird

488
00:27:02,124 --> 00:27:03,666
They're usually just old bastards like me.

489
00:27:04,124 --> 00:27:08,499
Chile, Bosnia, Croatia, great places to play. Russia is a great
place to play.

490
00:27:08,541 --> 00:27:12,457
Wattie: We've been in Russia for over 25 years. Great people. I have
There are many friends there.

491
00:27:12,499 --> 00:27:15,832
They can't speak because they are arrested.

492
00:27:15,874 --> 00:27:18,124
I have been to Ukraine before

493
00:27:18,166 --> 00:27:19,291
Again, good people.

494
00:27:19,791 --> 00:27:21,457
Wattie: This song is for Vladimir Putin

495
00:27:21,499 --> 00:27:24,041
He's a fucking murderous, masturbating Russian bastard.

496
00:27:24,374 --> 00:27:24,999
fuck it

497
00:27:25,957 --> 00:27:28,541
Fuck her pussy. This song is called The Massacre.

498
00:27:33,916 --> 00:27:35,749
Wattie: What's happening in Ukraine is fucking brutal

499
00:27:35,791 --> 00:27:36,791
They are being slaughtered

500
00:27:36,832 --> 00:27:39,249
Putin is a fucking mass murderer.
He's a fucking idiot.

501
00:27:39,291 --> 00:27:41,582
It's like with the Nazis in the war.
in Germany,

502
00:27:41,624 --> 00:27:42,624
They don't have a free press.

503
00:27:42,666 --> 00:27:46,832
There is no free press, everything is television controlled by the State, and that is
what is happening in Russia.

504
00:27:47,249 --> 00:27:50,582
If you speak, they arrest you. And the prisons in Russia,

505
00:27:51,124 --> 00:27:55,791
They are much, much harder than anywhere else. Brutally harder.

506
00:27:58,082 --> 00:28:00,541
But that's another story.

507
00:28:01,457 --> 00:28:04,291
Wattie: I really hope to get back there, but I don't know when.
that will happen.

508
00:28:04,874 --> 00:28:06,041
I don't know when that will happen

509
00:28:08,041 --> 00:28:10,207
Wattie: For me, one of the most important albums we've ever made.

510
00:28:10,249 --> 00:28:12,666
Until The Massacre all the bastards hated The Exploited except ours
fans.

511
00:28:12,707 --> 00:28:14,707
All the media hated The Exploited. I hated myself.

512
00:28:14,749 --> 00:28:16,707
Plus we were violent, the concerts were violent.

513
00:28:16,749 --> 00:28:20,041
I was always doing a lot of drugs, so I was always **grrrrrrrr** to
every pussy.

514
00:28:20,082 --> 00:28:23,541
Everyone thought we were making money but we weren't making money.
We were unemployed.

515
00:28:23,582 --> 00:28:27,457
Just surviving by doing concerts. And everyone said: Troops of
Tomorrow was the best album.

516
00:28:27,499 --> 00:28:30,207
I used to hate him because Big John played guitar.

517
00:28:30,249 --> 00:28:34,457
Wattie: We did The Massacre with Colin Richardson and he was the
The first guy who spent time with us.

518
00:28:34,499 --> 00:28:37,541
I really wanted to get the sound we wanted. The first boy to put
a lot of effort in.

519
00:28:37,582 --> 00:28:39,499
It's the first album where I felt the production was right.

520
00:28:39,791 --> 00:28:42,124
We were not a Thrash band, we never have been, we have always been a Punk band.
band..

521
00:28:42,541 --> 00:28:45,707
We play punk music, but that music crosses over into metal.
scene.

522
00:28:45,749 --> 00:28:51,041
We have a lot of metal people who like our music because it's fast and
aggressive. But he has always been fast and aggressive.

523
00:28:51,082 --> 00:28:55,749
Then someone wrote to me through our fan club page and said: The
Massacre is the best album you've ever made.

524
00:28:55,791 --> 00:28:57,916
That made me very happy and I thought I'll continue with
the band.

525
00:28:57,957 --> 00:29:03,124
In the history of The Exploited, that was a huge album for us,
really massive

526
00:29:03,166 --> 00:29:06,374
Because from there we went to Beat The Bastards.

527
00:29:17,957 --> 00:29:19,332
Wattie: I'm going back there.

528
00:29:28,207 --> 00:29:29,582
Wattie: All these motherfuckers say 'ah, you're shit'

529
00:29:29,624 --> 00:29:30,791
I never said we were good,

530
00:29:31,541 --> 00:29:33,874
You can't sing. I never said I could sing, but they pay me for it.
Pussy.

531
00:29:34,249 --> 00:29:35,541
Wattie: People can say whatever they want.

532
00:29:35,582 --> 00:29:38,916
But if you talk about my family, my bandmates or my friends,

533
00:29:38,957 --> 00:29:41,957
So that's different, that's personal, and I'll go and attack them.

534
00:29:41,999 --> 00:29:44,957
All the Haters never come up to me and say it to my face.

535
00:29:44,999 --> 00:29:46,749
I get a lot of shit, death threats,

536
00:29:46,791 --> 00:29:48,332
'I hope you die of cancer' that kind of thing, huh.

537
00:29:48,791 --> 00:29:52,416
Wattie: I never forgot those people who helped the band, all these
guys who followed the band and defended the band.

538
00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:54,957
All those years ago when everything was a fight and I was exploited
or rude.

539
00:29:54,999 --> 00:29:59,249
I never forget it. And that's why I invite them to concerts and give them
They pass.

540
00:29:59,291 --> 00:30:01,874
Because they were there for us when there was no one else.

541
00:30:02,582 --> 00:30:08,499
Wattie: I've had doctors, heart surgeons, porn stars, teachers,

542
00:30:08,541 --> 00:30:12,416
policemen, they all come, for all these years...

543
00:30:12,457 --> 00:30:14,082
and say 'I love the exploited'.

544
00:30:15,332 --> 00:30:17,041
Wattie: Fuck you, you Scottish bastard?

545
00:30:17,666 --> 00:30:20,207
Wattie: You mean, fuck off, you handsome Scottish bastard!

546
00:30:21,124 --> 00:30:23,249
Rob: For me, it's a problem getting to know each other.
So many interesting people.

547
00:30:24,082 --> 00:30:27,582
I mean, we were recently in Georgia,
We were in Armenia, Türkiye.

548
00:30:28,166 --> 00:30:29,874
So it was a fantastic trip.

549
00:30:29,916 --> 00:30:31,666
You know, I really like playing concerts.

550
00:30:31,707 --> 00:30:35,291
Jo: I really enjoyed going to Türkiye.
Armenia, Georgia,

551
00:30:35,332 --> 00:30:39,249
special places to visit in the world
that you have no idea what is happening

552
00:30:39,291 --> 00:30:43,082
there and meet people and listen
stories about their part of the world.

553
00:30:43,124 --> 00:30:44,082
A humiliating experience.

554
00:30:44,124 --> 00:30:46,832
Stevie: You're experiencing more culture and meeting so many people.
different...

555
00:30:46,874 --> 00:30:49,624
people and really open your eyes,
you know, to the world.

556
00:30:49,666 --> 00:30:51,291
Wattie: Besides traveling the world and meeting people?

557
00:30:51,957 --> 00:30:54,999
The fact that I have done something
in my life that people appreciate it.

558
00:30:55,332 --> 00:30:57,541
I get a lot of text messages and stuff.

559
00:30:57,582 --> 00:31:01,166
of people who are going through a difficult time and say they grew
up with our music

560
00:31:01,207 --> 00:31:04,124
and that our music helped them get through a certain part of their lives.

561
00:31:04,416 --> 00:31:08,207
To me, that means everything. It means I've really done it
something,

562
00:31:08,249 --> 00:31:09,332
That meant something to that person.

563
00:31:09,624 --> 00:31:12,749
Wattie: When I told that Green Day guy, you might have a big deal.
record company

564
00:31:12,791 --> 00:31:15,166
And a lot of fucking money, but I have something that you will never have
have

565
00:31:15,207 --> 00:31:17,124
and that is respect on the part of punks.

566
00:31:17,166 --> 00:31:22,082
Wattie: You can't buy that, you have to earn it. Stevie: Exactly.
Wattie: That's what I took away from being on The Exploited.

567
00:31:22,416 --> 00:31:26,374
Wattie: In the past we had made an album every 5 years. we never
I never let record companies hear anything.

568
00:31:26,416 --> 00:31:30,707
My brother was playing drums for Beat The Bastard for 3 days. 3
days for a song!

569
00:31:30,999 --> 00:31:35,457
I said 'that's not right' and my hands were blistered,
He kept going in and going back in.

570
00:31:35,874 --> 00:31:40,374
Wattie: Yeah, it was hard work. The guitarist played things and
I'd say 'that's bullshit, do it again'.

571
00:31:40,416 --> 00:31:44,041
I even made some of the songs vocals.
and everyone would say, 'that's great'

572
00:31:44,832 --> 00:31:47,999
But when I had time to listen to it, I would go back and rewrite it and
do it again.

573
00:31:48,041 --> 00:31:52,957
Wattie: On that album, Beat The Bastards, they told us we could spend it.
5k and keep 15k.

574
00:31:52,999 --> 00:31:59,207
That's a lot of money because we were unemployed. In the end it cost
70,000 euros with a budget of 20,000 euros!

575
00:31:59,249 --> 00:32:01,666
I'm not worried about money, I just wanted to make a great album.

576
00:32:01,707 --> 00:32:06,207
I know a lot of bands that had the same deal, they can spend whatever they want.
wanna. Stay with the rest.

577
00:32:07,791 --> 00:32:12,832
And they spent maybe £5,000 on their album. The rest is history.

578
00:32:12,874 --> 00:32:16,916
So, with that Beat The Bastard album, we started from there, with everything
the other punk bands,

579
00:32:16,957 --> 00:32:19,791
From there we went to here.

580
00:32:19,832 --> 00:32:24,832
And we're still here, because we spent all the money and
effort in making great albums.

581
00:32:24,874 --> 00:32:29,249
Wattie: Beat The Bastards became Metal people who had never done before
touched Punk before.

582
00:32:29,291 --> 00:32:30,916
Apart from maybe Motorhead

583
00:32:31,374 --> 00:32:36,541
So all these people, MTV, Kerrang, they all wanted to start doing
interviews.

584
00:32:36,582 --> 00:32:39,332
I would go and do interviews with the little, little fanzines.

585
00:32:39,374 --> 00:32:43,499
Because those people supported us when the Metal magazines didn't want to.
meet before.

586
00:32:44,082 --> 00:32:45,999
So Beat The Bastards was a huge album.

587
00:32:46,041 --> 00:32:49,541
I think along with Punk's Not Dead, it's our classic album.

588
00:32:49,957 --> 00:32:52,041
Wattie: I've had a good life, a great life, a crazy life.

589
00:32:53,207 --> 00:32:55,749
I don't regret it much.

590
00:32:57,416 --> 00:32:59,707
Apart from some personal...

591
00:33:00,624 --> 00:33:02,166
But... um...

592
00:33:03,249 --> 00:33:06,749
Yes, damn. I have lost track of what I was saying again. **Laughs**

593
00:33:07,749 --> 00:33:10,957
Wattie: The best thing I've ever done is be on The
Exploited.

594
00:33:10,999 --> 00:33:14,207
I've done a lot of stupid things. I've said a lot of stupid things.

595
00:33:14,957 --> 00:33:15,916
I still do it!

596
00:33:16,541 --> 00:33:17,624
But I don't give a damn.

597
00:33:18,249 --> 00:33:19,957
One thing I am is 100% honest.

598
00:33:20,416 --> 00:33:21,707
I don't say things I don't mean.

599
00:33:22,249 --> 00:33:25,457
I always say what I think, even if it's not pleasant.

600
00:33:25,957 --> 00:33:30,332
Wattie: What time is it? 10? Have you done a line check?

601
00:33:38,749 --> 00:33:42,457
Diana: The popularity of The Exploited exploded in the United States and
around the world

602
00:33:42,499 --> 00:33:46,166
And even Metal bands like Slayer covered your songs and Ice T.

603
00:33:46,207 --> 00:33:47,249
With Bodycount.

604
00:33:47,291 --> 00:33:51,457
Wattie: We never got press in the UK at the time.

605
00:33:52,332 --> 00:33:55,124
It was quite difficult for The Exploited with so much hate.

606
00:33:55,166 --> 00:33:58,374
And I thought it would be nice and maybe see our name.

607
00:33:58,416 --> 00:33:59,624
in the movie titles.

608
00:33:59,666 --> 00:34:03,707
We did a stand with Ice T and it was in the papers.

609
00:34:03,749 --> 00:34:07,541
'Scots treasure Ice T's empty locker room'

610
00:34:08,582 --> 00:34:12,624
All my colleagues came in and emptied the refrigerator, like real bums.

611
00:34:14,291 --> 00:34:17,249
Rob: 20 years ago album sales mattered, playing live

612
00:34:17,291 --> 00:34:19,291
In any case,
It was a secondary source of income.

613
00:34:19,332 --> 00:34:22,041
It really wasn't something
which each band had to rely on.

614
00:34:22,082 --> 00:34:24,207
I know in the last bit
while people have become very aware

615
00:34:24,249 --> 00:34:25,749
That tonight we will play at an Academy show.

616
00:34:25,791 --> 00:34:27,207
We will not be selling merchandise tonight.

617
00:34:27,249 --> 00:34:30,832
because the Academia Group 02,
They want to charge a flat rate per person.

618
00:34:30,874 --> 00:34:33,291
That is equivalent to giving them
basically £1,000 tonight

619
00:34:33,707 --> 00:34:35,041
so we can sell our own t-shirts.

620
00:34:52,124 --> 00:34:53,624
Wattie: When we did the Beat The Bastards tour

621
00:34:53,666 --> 00:34:57,832
We got a tour bus, and for me it was a big deal, “we made it, we made it.”
I have a tour bus.

622
00:34:58,207 --> 00:35:01,541
After 20-odd years, we got a tour bus. Brilliant!

623
00:35:01,957 --> 00:35:05,999
But for a guy in the band, it wasn't good enough for him, huh.

624
00:35:06,291 --> 00:35:08,541
Saying I should get more and that things weren't right
enough

625
00:35:08,999 --> 00:35:11,582
Then he left the band to go to work at the train station.

626
00:35:12,041 --> 00:35:16,832
and have another little band and go play Bannermans

627
00:35:16,874 --> 00:35:18,332
to play with 20 or 30 people

628
00:35:19,999 --> 00:35:22,791
Motherfuckers like that can go fuck themselves, man.

629
00:35:23,207 --> 00:35:26,374
We've got some guys in the band who have been fucking fans.

630
00:35:26,416 --> 00:35:28,582
Fan Question: Do you ever see your old band members, Gary and Big?
Juan?

631
00:35:28,624 --> 00:35:30,416
Wattie: Big John is a fucking fat man.

632
00:35:30,457 --> 00:35:33,291
If there is one person in the world I could kill, it would be
that pussy

633
00:35:33,332 --> 00:35:35,166
I was offered many times to fire the band.

634
00:35:35,207 --> 00:35:39,541
Sack The Exploited, change the band name, go solo and we
give you thousands and thousands of pounds

635
00:35:39,582 --> 00:35:44,707
Well, T was receiving £30 of unemployment benefit, so thousands of pounds was an amount
a lot of money, but I told them to go to hell and shove it up their asses.

636
00:35:45,124 --> 00:35:49,041
I'm not going to do that. To work with The Exploited you have to be
thick skin.

637
00:35:49,499 --> 00:35:51,332
You have to have thick skin to work with me.

638
00:35:51,374 --> 00:35:56,291
Wattie: I'm really demonizing the band. When you go on stage, I
Expect 100% effort.

639
00:35:57,374 --> 00:35:59,582
Put everything into it when you're on that stage playing.

640
00:35:59,624 --> 00:36:02,416
But what I do regret is how

641
00:36:02,457 --> 00:36:05,832
When I started the band I was always like everything.

642
00:36:05,874 --> 00:36:09,666
But then Big John attacked me, attacked me with his lawyers and that

643
00:36:09,707 --> 00:36:13,332
He gets money for all those songs he never wrote. With the ice T
What is certain is that he came out to his lawyer.

644
00:36:13,374 --> 00:36:19,291
<i>I wrote down all the songs I had written and said, "Here, John, sign that."
and you get the money for the songs you've written for about 14 songs</i>

645
00:36:19,332 --> 00:36:22,999
But he claimed to have written 30 songs, so he didn't sign them.

646
00:36:23,041 --> 00:36:27,291
Then he was furious because he was going to set fire to his house. I thought
'Maybe I'll get 5 years,' but that's okay.

647
00:36:27,332 --> 00:36:31,207
We did some gigs and someone told John they were going to set him on fire.
the

648
00:36:31,249 --> 00:36:32,832
then he left Edinburgh and went to Holland.

649
00:36:32,874 --> 00:36:36,041
Wattie: To answer your question, no, I don't talk to them, no.

650
00:36:37,457 --> 00:36:43,082
Wattie: In the end I thought screw it, these motherfuckers are coming in the band.
for 6 months

651
00:36:43,124 --> 00:36:45,041
and they treat them very well, and they go to hell...

652
00:36:45,082 --> 00:36:47,707
So from now on, you will be paid a fixed salary.

653
00:36:47,749 --> 00:36:49,166
This is what they pay you.

654
00:36:49,207 --> 00:36:50,207
You can take it or leave it.

655
00:36:50,249 --> 00:36:53,874
Some of the motherfuckers come to the band and say, "Oh, I'm in The
Exploited and big-headed and all that.

656
00:36:53,916 --> 00:36:56,499
And he tried to act like Billy Big Boots.

657
00:36:56,916 --> 00:37:01,582
So when that happened, I would kick them out of the band, I would fight with them.
and get in their face and tell them to fuck off.

658
00:37:02,041 --> 00:37:03,374
That's not what The Exploited is about.

659
00:37:09,874 --> 00:37:13,749
Wattie: Sex and violence the song? It's a simple song, really.
simple.

660
00:37:15,249 --> 00:37:18,332
Wattie: If you know the words, come on stage... Come on.

661
00:37:19,124 --> 00:37:20,999
Wattie: Come up and sing it with us... Come up...

662
00:37:54,999 --> 00:37:57,832
**General Walla**

663
00:38:09,874 --> 00:38:11,666
Stuart: What about the worst thing about being on The Exploited?

664
00:38:11,707 --> 00:38:14,166
**Laughs** Where do I start...?

665
00:38:15,499 --> 00:38:17,707
Jo: You are far away, far from your loved ones.

666
00:38:18,832 --> 00:38:21,582
If some people at home are not doing well, it is difficult sometimes.

667
00:38:21,957 --> 00:38:23,457
Rob: The truth of that is.

668
00:38:23,499 --> 00:38:26,082
you have to make sacrifices
because if you're on tour so much, you know...

669
00:38:26,124 --> 00:38:29,166
If we are on the road four or five,
Six months a year, you miss things.

670
00:38:29,207 --> 00:38:32,291
You have to sacrifice a certain amount.
of your personal life

671
00:38:32,791 --> 00:38:34,207
to accomplish something like

672
00:38:34,249 --> 00:38:36,457
go on tour with Exploited for,
You know, 20 years.

673
00:38:36,499 --> 00:38:39,874
Stevie: You sacrifice a lot, you know, to do this...

674
00:38:39,916 --> 00:38:41,416
...help each other, support each other...

675
00:38:41,457 --> 00:38:43,832
...You make connections and friendships through that.

676
00:38:53,582 --> 00:38:56,374
Wattie: Because now that I've stopped doing drugs, sometimes I think I'm
too pretty.

677
00:38:56,416 --> 00:38:58,499
20 years ago you would have been beaten and kicked out of the band.

678
00:38:58,541 --> 00:39:01,582
Just because you're here, but I let things go, I let a lot of things go.
things are going.

679
00:39:01,624 --> 00:39:05,999
Even when motherfuckers tell me things, I think 20 years ago I just
I'll beat you up, you bastard.

680
00:39:06,041 --> 00:39:08,041
You don't realize how lucky you are to not be mistreated.

681
00:39:08,666 --> 00:39:11,999
But sometimes I just think... fuck...

682
00:39:12,041 --> 00:39:13,124
But then again, I think...

683
00:39:13,166 --> 00:39:15,999
I'm happy, so let it go... and relax.

684
00:39:16,041 --> 00:39:17,416
believe.

685
00:39:17,457 --> 00:39:19,916
Stevie: He's actually a better guy.
what he realizes.

686
00:39:19,957 --> 00:39:21,374
Wattie: I'm good with people I like and respect.

687
00:39:21,416 --> 00:39:23,666
But if people screw me, I never forget it.

688
00:39:24,166 --> 00:39:26,582
Never forget the bastards who fuck with me.

689
00:39:26,624 --> 00:39:27,374
Never ever.

690
00:39:27,416 --> 00:39:31,457
People who have done me a favor, it doesn't matter if anyone else
you like them, whatever...

691
00:39:31,499 --> 00:39:33,582
I will support you, no matter what.

692
00:39:34,082 --> 00:39:35,207
Wattie: Any final words?

693
00:39:36,249 --> 00:39:40,166
Well Rebellion, it's been a great weekend.

694
00:39:40,707 --> 00:39:43,582
Wattie: I met a lot of wonderful people.
Rob: Wattie, he's filming us!!

695
00:39:59,499 --> 00:40:02,666
Wattie: Fuck The System took us almost two years from start to finish.
end.

696
00:40:03,082 --> 00:40:05,957
In total it cost 101,000 euros, a lot of money, right?

697
00:40:05,999 --> 00:40:08,832
From Punk's Not Dead, €600 in 3 days

698
00:40:08,874 --> 00:40:12,374
lastly, almost two years in studies and more than one
one hundred thousand dollars.

699
00:40:12,916 --> 00:40:16,957
Both great albums the last two. But all the money went to
studies

700
00:40:16,999 --> 00:40:18,749
We never got the money and that will never happen again.

701
00:40:18,791 --> 00:40:19,624
We don't have that anymore.

702
00:40:19,666 --> 00:40:24,374
But to me that means everything, it's been a long time since that.
The last album though, 20 years since the last album.

703
00:40:24,416 --> 00:40:26,041
We have a lot of good songs written.

704
00:40:26,957 --> 00:40:32,374
Wattie: Over the years we've written a lot of good songs and we've kept
back a lot of good songs.

705
00:40:33,291 --> 00:40:35,332
The next album will be really good!

706
00:40:35,374 --> 00:40:38,749
Wattie: We won't do as many concerts next year, we'll do
less concerts...

707
00:40:38,791 --> 00:40:41,541
and I want to spend time writing the songs and making the album.

708
00:40:41,582 --> 00:40:44,832
I want to make this next album before I die.

709
00:40:45,207 --> 00:40:47,249
So those are the plans.

710
00:40:55,749 --> 00:40:57,207
Rob: Alright, guys.

711
00:41:01,791 --> 00:41:05,541
Wattie: When punk bands start apologizing for songs and lyrics,
It's done, it's time to go.

712
00:41:05,582 --> 00:41:10,624
All these motherfuckers say you can't say this or that, screw them, that
It really bothers me.

713
00:41:11,999 --> 00:41:16,082
Apologize? The Toys Dolls, were they the Toy Dolls?

714
00:41:16,124 --> 00:41:18,332
And the Anti-None League

715
00:41:18,374 --> 00:41:20,291
He said that, he said that, it's sexist or whatever...

716
00:41:20,332 --> 00:41:20,999
fuck you

717
00:41:24,791 --> 00:41:27,749
Wattie: Where are we? We're in fucking Butlins, mate.

718
00:41:27,791 --> 00:41:29,457
Hello from Hello, Hello from Ho.

719
00:41:30,749 --> 00:41:33,166
Captain Scarlet: Hey! Hey!
Stevie: This is the voice of the Mysterons.

720
00:41:33,207 --> 00:41:35,499
Stuart: How were the last shows?
Wattie: Belfast was really good.

721
00:41:35,541 --> 00:41:37,041
Dublin was absolutely brilliant.

722
00:41:45,124 --> 00:41:46,207
Wattie: This song is called Fightback.

723
00:41:59,874 --> 00:42:02,041
Rob: The money side is nice.
quite brutal.

724
00:42:02,082 --> 00:42:05,041
I mean if you look at the table
how much you like Napster or Amazon

725
00:42:05,082 --> 00:42:07,916
or Spotify, you know, they pay

726
00:42:08,332 --> 00:42:12,957
$0.004 per song,
You know, something like this.

727
00:42:12,999 --> 00:42:15,457
Ridiculous. But I think the Internet...

728
00:42:16,207 --> 00:42:18,749
That's what happens and the Internet simply reflects the ugly side.

729
00:42:18,791 --> 00:42:21,416
you know, the best
and the worst of all of us is on the Internet.

730
00:42:22,374 --> 00:42:24,832
Wattie: Hey, I like being by the sea...

731
00:42:24,874 --> 00:42:25,957
Oh, that's Blackpool, sorry.

732
00:42:25,999 --> 00:42:27,207
This is Skegness

733
00:42:29,416 --> 00:42:32,291
Wattie: Exploited will take a tour of all the coastal towns.

734
00:42:32,749 --> 00:42:34,374
Wattie: Delete, delete...

735
00:42:34,999 --> 00:42:37,041
Wullie: You never know who's watching, people might get angry...

736
00:42:37,666 --> 00:42:38,207
Wullie: offended

737
00:42:38,624 --> 00:42:44,124
Wattie: You have to have your own beliefs, speak your mind, not just
turn around Stevie: Rollover. Wattie: He spins around like a little hedgehog, damn it.

738
00:42:44,166 --> 00:42:47,916
A lot of the bigger bands have done it, 'oh, they're going to
cancel us'

739
00:42:47,957 --> 00:42:50,291
or "you can't play the concert because you said that." Fuck off.

740
00:42:50,957 --> 00:42:54,749
Actually, punk is not about that. Punk is about being or doing.
whatever you want, saying what you want.

741
00:42:54,791 --> 00:42:55,374
Stevie: Where does it end?

742
00:42:55,416 --> 00:42:59,749
Wattie: They can cancel us. Stevie: I think if you give up
once, it will never stop.

743
00:42:59,791 --> 00:43:01,541
Wattie: Do all punks say you can't say this or that?

744
00:43:01,582 --> 00:43:02,999
Seriously, if that's what you think, fuck you.

745
00:43:03,374 --> 00:43:05,791
Go be a fucking Mod or something, get a fucking life, motherfuckers.

746
00:43:06,416 --> 00:43:07,582
Sorry, I'm ranting again.

747
00:43:07,957 --> 00:43:11,041
Wattie: I go on Facebook and I have all these fucking motherfuckers talking.
shit for me

748
00:43:11,582 --> 00:43:13,166
So I try not to respond.

749
00:43:13,207 --> 00:43:14,999
But I always come back, 'fuck you, idiot'

750
00:43:15,041 --> 00:43:16,957
'come and say it to my face, you fat cunt'

751
00:43:17,541 --> 00:43:18,749
But then they ban me!

752
00:43:19,082 --> 00:43:21,332
They ban me, not because I called them an idiot.

753
00:43:21,374 --> 00:43:23,874
They banned me because I called him fat!

754
00:43:25,332 --> 00:43:27,832
What the hell is that all about? Damn keyboard idiots.

755
00:43:56,999 --> 00:43:59,041
Wattie: Irish!
Rob: **Distant** Where are you?

756
00:43:59,582 --> 00:44:00,999
Wattie: In the dressing room.

757
00:44:01,041 --> 00:44:02,624
Wattie: What are we really doing?

758
00:44:03,249 --> 00:44:05,166
Stuart: Quick photo shoot for the cover.

759
00:44:05,874 --> 00:44:09,582
**General background chat**

760
00:44:21,082 --> 00:44:22,874
Wattie: We're on stage in ten minutes.

761
00:44:37,832 --> 00:44:40,332
Wattie: If it sucks, say so and get another one.

762
00:44:40,832 --> 00:44:45,957
Tutek: No, it's okay. Wattie: I look good, I look good
sexy. Stevie and I look good, the Irishman looks good.

763
00:44:49,791 --> 00:44:52,707
Wattie: The first show we did was at the YMCA.

764
00:44:56,874 --> 00:44:58,332
They paid us five pounds

765
00:44:58,374 --> 00:45:02,041
But some of the punks cut the microphone cables.

766
00:45:02,374 --> 00:45:04,082
So they never asked us to come back.

767
00:45:05,291 --> 00:45:06,791
Wattie: Here we go.
Irish: Yes.

768
00:45:08,957 --> 00:45:12,499
Wattie: Here we go, the last gig is Butlins.

769
00:45:13,166 --> 00:45:14,499
Rob: Yes, party!

770
00:45:14,874 --> 00:45:15,499
Rob: Go, go, go...

771
00:45:15,957 --> 00:45:16,749
Rob: No, no, no...

772
00:45:16,791 --> 00:45:17,332
Wattie: Exactly.

773
00:45:19,374 --> 00:45:25,416
**General background chat**

774
00:45:36,249 --> 00:45:38,166
Wattie: Yes!
Stuart: Are you ready?

775
00:45:39,207 --> 00:45:39,832
Wattie: I'm never ready

776
00:45:40,916 --> 00:45:41,791
Rob: Fix the strings.

777
00:45:42,374 --> 00:45:45,582
Wattie: 42 years of Punk Rock. It started with the YMCA...

778
00:45:45,916 --> 00:45:47,832
and ends up at Butlins... WTF?

779
00:45:59,749 --> 00:46:02,749
Stuart: How have you been?
Wattie: Not bad. I'm still alive.

780
00:46:02,791 --> 00:46:05,499
South America was great until I collapsed on stage.

781
00:46:05,541 --> 00:46:07,999
So I was in the hospital again and I'm happy to be able to do concerts.

782
00:46:08,749 --> 00:46:12,041
I was sick on stage every night, throwing up all the time.

783
00:46:12,082 --> 00:46:13,957
He had ulcers in his stomach that began to bleed.

784
00:46:13,999 --> 00:46:17,999
But I never knew, so I was fucking sick. The last concert I collapsed
On stage I thought I was having a heart attack.

785
00:46:18,291 --> 00:46:21,916
Inside the concert they bought an ambulance **sings** You're going home
in the back of an ambulance.

786
00:46:23,749 --> 00:46:29,124
They took me to the hospital and they wanted to do an ECG but they wanted me
to remove all my piercings.

787
00:46:29,166 --> 00:46:33,374
Fuck you, I'm not going to remove my piercings, if I'm going to die, I'm going to die.
with my piercings on.

788
00:46:33,416 --> 00:46:34,999
I never said that but I was thinking about it.

789
00:46:35,041 --> 00:46:40,624
We had to cancel the last show, then we came back and canceled London.
and Europe was screwed.

790
00:46:41,582 --> 00:46:44,207
It took us 3 months to do our first concert.

791
00:46:44,541 --> 00:46:46,041
If I can't do it 100%

792
00:46:46,999 --> 00:46:48,249
and be as good as I always am

793
00:46:48,832 --> 00:46:49,374
then I won't do it.

794
00:46:49,874 --> 00:46:54,999
Someone videotaped it and posted it on YouTube and it really scared me.

795
00:46:55,041 --> 00:46:56,291
I thought I was really going to die this time!

796
00:46:56,749 --> 00:47:01,457
But it's pretty funny when 900 people shout 'Wattie, Wattie.'

797
00:47:01,499 --> 00:47:05,291
I was lying there going urgghh and it was chanted *Wattie Wattie� 

798
00:47:05,332 --> 00:47:08,041
I had all these doctors around me, but the crowd refused to leave.
the building

799
00:47:08,332 --> 00:47:09,832
Until I heard it was okay.

800
00:47:09,874 --> 00:47:12,291
So I thought that was pretty humiliating.

801
00:47:14,416 --> 00:47:16,541
Wattie: Unless you want to sit down and talk, get out.

802
00:47:16,582 --> 00:47:18,291
Rob: No, I don't want to sit and talk.

803
00:47:19,124 --> 00:47:21,707
I don't mind talking but no one wants to listen to it, that's the
problem.

804
00:47:24,291 --> 00:47:26,249
Wattie: Yeah, South America was great.

805
00:47:26,291 --> 00:47:27,957
Argentina was great.

806
00:47:27,999 --> 00:47:31,041
We play against Costa Rica.
We have four days off there, fucking fantastic.

807
00:47:31,374 --> 00:47:33,416
Chile was crazy as always.

808
00:47:33,457 --> 00:47:35,499
Chile looks like the beginnings of Punk

809
00:47:35,541 --> 00:47:37,874
When everything was crazy. All the punks were really crazy.

810
00:47:38,457 --> 00:47:41,582
I don't know if it will be the last time I go back there.

811
00:47:42,249 --> 00:47:44,249
I don't know how long my health will last.

812
00:47:45,249 --> 00:47:48,332
I'm going to enjoy every concert while I can.

813
00:47:49,416 --> 00:47:53,207
Wattie: So far we've done Belgium

814
00:47:53,749 --> 00:47:55,457
Derby last week.

815
00:47:56,832 --> 00:47:59,291
Last night in Southampton and all the gigs were great.

816
00:47:59,832 --> 00:48:04,541
Wattie: We have a new drummer for the immediate future, my brother.
he needed to take some time.

817
00:48:04,582 --> 00:48:06,874
So we got Jo, the drummer from Disturbance.

818
00:48:07,582 --> 00:48:12,666
He's fucking brilliant, he went to his rehearsal room in Holland and
I learned all the songs.

819
00:48:12,707 --> 00:48:15,832
And he came and learned the whole set.

820
00:48:16,166 --> 00:48:19,416
Wattie: See who's playing below? Hey?

821
00:48:19,457 --> 00:48:21,832
Downstairs is a Mod cover band!

822
00:48:21,874 --> 00:48:24,707
Wattie: Next week we play in Scarborough.

823
00:48:24,749 --> 00:48:27,999
There is conflict, GBH, high,

824
00:48:28,041 --> 00:48:28,666
UK subs

825
00:48:29,291 --> 00:48:33,207
Stuart: See exploitation and conflict in the same bill, if that
It would have happened in 19817.

826
00:48:33,249 --> 00:48:37,332
Wattie: Yeah. I tried that with Crass. We decided to do a concert.
together.

827
00:48:37,374 --> 00:48:39,666
To try to stop the fragmentation.

828
00:48:39,707 --> 00:48:43,666
Then we did a concert at the 100 Club. Crass went ahead of us,

829
00:48:43,707 --> 00:48:46,166
It was just hundreds and hundreds of Skinheads.

830
00:48:46,207 --> 00:48:49,332
And as soon as Crass started it was like a big black rain,

831
00:48:49,374 --> 00:48:50,374
Everyone was throwing bottles at them.

832
00:48:50,999 --> 00:48:54,291
I think they played maybe two songs and got bottled up and had to
comes off the stage.

833
00:48:54,332 --> 00:48:55,832
Sorry Steve!

834
00:48:55,874 --> 00:48:57,957
Wattie: 35 years ago us and the conflict would never happen!

835
00:48:57,999 --> 00:49:02,832
It's not that we never get along, it's just that we read that they wrote a
song about Exploited and I was like 'Fuck these pussies.'

836
00:49:02,874 --> 00:49:05,374
I used to hear all these shitty stories about them.

837
00:49:05,416 --> 00:49:08,207
But I've actually talked to him, I think he's a very good guy.

838
00:49:08,957 --> 00:49:12,957
Over the last few years, Colin and I have been very good friends,
talk all the time.

839
00:49:12,999 --> 00:49:17,707
The best since we get along very well, some of the stories.
From his animal rights days, the things he did,

840
00:49:17,749 --> 00:49:21,791
I totally respect the guy, he's a bit manic!

841
00:49:22,124 --> 00:49:24,207
The first time I saw them I was very surprised at how good they were.

842
00:49:24,541 --> 00:49:28,749
There are always a lot of people who tell me: "Fuck you, you're not playing."
with conflict! You don't talk to Colin.

843
00:49:28,791 --> 00:49:30,541
The same thing happens to him. Hey.

844
00:49:30,582 --> 00:49:34,582
You don't talk to Wattie, you fucking exploited bastards.

845
00:49:34,624 --> 00:49:35,416
Fuck everyone.

846
00:49:38,457 --> 00:49:40,249
Stuart: How do you approach it?

847
00:49:40,291 --> 00:49:41,457
the future now?

848
00:49:41,499 --> 00:49:43,124
Wattie: The future? Take it every day as it comes.

849
00:49:43,582 --> 00:49:44,416
I don't know how long.

850
00:49:45,082 --> 00:49:46,124
I will still be able to do concerts.

851
00:49:46,749 --> 00:49:48,291
Depends. We have a great tour ahead of us.

852
00:49:48,332 --> 00:49:51,999
But spending 6 nights and 1 day off is too much. and I don't want
to end up back in the hospital.

853
00:49:52,374 --> 00:49:55,624
Because if I end up in the hospital again, the concerts will be over.

854
00:50:05,832 --> 00:50:07,541
Wattie: I had to change my life or I'd be dead, huh?

855
00:50:07,832 --> 00:50:08,499
it is what it is

856
00:50:08,916 --> 00:50:12,249
I have sacrificed too much of my life not to do concerts.

857
00:50:12,291 --> 00:50:16,124
But I don't look at things negatively, I look at them positively, like
I am always a positive person.

858
00:50:26,916 --> 00:50:29,291
Wattie: It was Wullie who said 'I'm leaving the band.'

859
00:50:30,041 --> 00:50:31,291
Damn stairs, man!

860
00:50:32,249 --> 00:50:33,999
Stevie: The band politics I stay out of

861
00:50:34,041 --> 00:50:37,374
It has nothing to do with anyone, it's between Wattie and his
brother, more or less what happened.

862
00:50:37,707 --> 00:50:39,041
Wattie: Do you want to use the elevator?

863
00:50:39,082 --> 00:50:42,249
My brother's wife was sick and he needed time to take care of her.

864
00:50:42,291 --> 00:50:44,082
He called me to tell me that I could come back in June.

865
00:50:44,124 --> 00:50:48,624
I told him you can't come back in June.
because we had to go to Australia in February.

866
00:50:48,666 --> 00:50:50,249
But he was still very sick.

867
00:50:50,291 --> 00:50:54,082
I told the drummer Jo,
because you packed your work to do these concerts

868
00:50:54,124 --> 00:50:57,374
When we reschedule in November,
you can do them.

869
00:50:59,291 --> 00:51:03,916
Wattie: I told Wullie you can join in December as Jo's.
only here part time helping

870
00:51:03,957 --> 00:51:07,041
and after December those were their last concerts and you can go back in
the band

871
00:51:07,082 --> 00:51:10,291
My brother said, "No shit, I'm quitting the band."

872
00:51:22,082 --> 00:51:25,499
Rob: It's 25% of the band that changes, it's not just the music that changes.
changes

873
00:51:25,541 --> 00:51:31,124
They do everything together, they eat and travel, they act,
Spend the best times and spend the worst together.

874
00:51:32,207 --> 00:51:34,207
Rainey: Hello.
Wattie: How are you?

875
00:51:34,249 --> 00:51:35,916
Rainey: Any chance of using the taxi?
Rob: Yes.

876
00:51:37,666 --> 00:51:40,541
Tezz: I have a Blackstar stack we can use.

877
00:51:42,041 --> 00:51:44,874
Wattie: Hello, here we are at 02 London.

878
00:51:45,457 --> 00:51:46,874
Along with Discharge and The Insane

879
00:51:47,416 --> 00:51:48,374
Stage director: Jazz hands...

880
00:51:48,416 --> 00:51:49,457
...a minute.

881
00:52:04,207 --> 00:52:05,249
Wattie: Hi Jock!

882
00:52:05,832 --> 00:52:06,874
Jock: Are you here tomorrow?

883
00:52:09,082 --> 00:52:18,207
**General talk**

884
00:52:22,541 --> 00:52:23,832
Wattie: This year has been really good.

885
00:52:23,874 --> 00:52:26,457
We did like 45 concerts in the last 4 months...

886
00:52:26,499 --> 00:52:29,374
which is a lot.
I don't know why, but it's like...

887
00:52:30,207 --> 00:52:31,666
Every concert has been brilliant.

888
00:52:32,249 --> 00:52:34,832
Many of the concerts have sold out. It's a great feeling.

889
00:52:35,374 --> 00:52:38,082
**General talk**

890
00:52:40,207 --> 00:52:43,416
Greg Cowan: This young man here...
Wattie: Belfast punks, come on!!

891
00:52:49,832 --> 00:52:50,832
Wattie: Legend.

892
00:52:50,874 --> 00:52:51,832
OI'Chas here.

893
00:52:53,082 --> 00:52:55,499
Prince of Punk, a young boy.

894
00:52:56,916 --> 00:52:58,832
Fan: Thank you very much.

895
00:52:59,416 --> 00:53:01,041
My friends are going to go crazy, man.

896
00:53:01,416 --> 00:53:04,291
Jo: Everything has been an experience. It was pretty cool.

897
00:53:04,332 --> 00:53:07,332
I mean, I've always loved playing drums.
and I love playing live music.

898
00:53:07,791 --> 00:53:11,749
Stevie: It's been amazing. We've been to some new places, it's been
a new experience for me.

899
00:53:12,707 --> 00:53:16,332
And I've never known crowds like that, people are hungry.
for shows.

900
00:53:16,374 --> 00:53:19,832
Regardless of what's going on, music appeals to everyone.
together.

901
00:53:20,332 --> 00:53:22,957
Rob: We don't know the music yet.
What these children are going to do, in the years to come...

902
00:53:22,999 --> 00:53:25,249
they are the ones who
Who will define the scenes?

903
00:53:25,291 --> 00:53:26,916
but unfortunately,
They will not have the same opportunity

904
00:53:26,957 --> 00:53:29,249
Like people like Live Nation
get away with it.

905
00:53:29,291 --> 00:53:32,541
It will only be the big bands that tour.
and smaller bands playing their venues

906
00:53:32,582 --> 00:53:33,582
city, and that's it.

907
00:53:41,707 --> 00:53:45,666
Rob: Can you remember what band we shared a dressing room with?
with coming back here for a year?

908
00:53:46,374 --> 00:53:48,332
Wattie: The Damned. Rob:
Was it the Damned? Wattie: Yes.

909
00:53:52,041 --> 00:53:54,374
Stuart: Now, this is a dressing room.

910
00:53:58,124 --> 00:53:59,749
**General talk**

911
00:54:03,499 --> 00:54:06,916
**General talk**

912
00:54:23,791 --> 00:54:26,916
**General talk**

913
00:54:26,957 --> 00:54:28,666
Rob: Danny, what were you thinking?

914
00:54:38,082 --> 00:54:38,916
Darrin: Go exploited.

915
00:54:45,957 --> 00:54:46,832
Wattie: How are you?

916
00:54:48,582 --> 00:54:51,999
Wattie: I've stopped drinking for five and a half minutes.
I didn't have a drink.

917
00:54:52,666 --> 00:54:55,166
Stevie: Meeting other people on the road without drinking

918
00:54:55,832 --> 00:54:57,707
You know, it's like a different level.

919
00:54:58,082 --> 00:55:02,999
Wattie: So I decided to stop drinking and get healthy and keep doing it.
concerts.

920
00:55:03,457 --> 00:55:06,541
Or keep drinking and not be well enough to play concerts.

921
00:55:07,541 --> 00:55:09,457
Wattie: For me music has to come first.

922
00:55:10,124 --> 00:55:11,374
Wattie: And my health too.

923
00:55:13,291 --> 00:55:14,707
Wattie: Have a great weekend, thanks!

924
00:55:22,999 --> 00:55:24,999
Wattie: Every day is good, I enjoy life every day.

925
00:55:25,374 --> 00:55:28,249
I wake up, I enjoy my life, I have the band

926
00:55:28,791 --> 00:55:31,082
I'm doing things. Fuck the haters.

927
00:55:31,124 --> 00:55:35,166
Fuck all the people who talk behind my back and... Fuck you, you bastards.

928
00:55:35,749 --> 00:55:38,041
I'm having a great time: punk isn't fucking dead.

929
00:55:38,457 --> 00:55:41,166
Wattie: I'd like to thank all the old bastards here.

930
00:55:41,666 --> 00:55:45,874
Who supported all the bands, all these years.
Because without all your people,

931
00:55:46,166 --> 00:55:47,999
They wouldn't be any punks.
There would be no bands

932
00:55:48,041 --> 00:55:50,082
No new bands would come here.

933
00:55:51,499 --> 00:55:52,332
So thank you!